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1. Re: firewall-wizards Digest, Vol 20, Issue 13 (Boni Bruno)
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Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 09:39:46 -0800
From: "Boni Bruno" <bbruno@dsw.net>
Subject: Re: [fw-wiz] firewall-wizards Digest, Vol 20, Issue 13
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The 3rd line in your dmz access-list will not deny traffic from the
inside when communication is initiated from the inside.
By default, a higher security zone can access a lower security zone and
the state information maintained by the Pix firewall will allow for the
return traffic to go back to the inside network.
That being said, many companies deny traffic out from the inside network
as a best practice. If you are denying traffic from the inside out
(which you should be doing), then you need to make sure you permit the
traffic you need from the inside to the dmz before any of your deny
statements in your acl.
-boni bruno
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Ok, I think I understand this a little better now. Say my private
network is 192.168.1.0/24 and my dmz is 192.168.2.0/24. I already have
the static (inside,dmz) 192.168.1.0 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0
which is required in 6.3(3). So, in order to make this work i.e the
inside network has access to everything on the dmz network and the dmz
network can access the internet and I only allow specific communication
from the dmz to the inside I need to do the following:
access-list dmz permit udp host 192.168.2.2 host 192.168.1.202 eq domain
access-list dmz permit tcp host 192.168.2.2 host 192.168.1.203 eq smtp
access-list dmz deny ip 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.0
255.255.255.0 access-list dmz permit ip 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0 any
I will also need to add the nonat statements as was suggested by
Brandon:
access-list nonat permit ip 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.2.0
255.255.255.0 access-list nonat permit ip 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0
192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 nat 0 (inside) access-list nonat nat 0 (dmz)
access-list nonat
My only concern here is the 3rd line in the dmz access-list and whether
it will deny communication from the inside network to the dmz (except
dns and smtp), but I will test that when I get home tonight.
Thank you for everyone's help.
Brian
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:07:37 -0500
From: "Brian Blater" <brb.lists@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [fw-wiz] PIX access-list help
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On Dec 25, 2007 12:25 AM, Paul Melson <pmelson@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 21, 2007 11:02 AM, Brian Blater <brb.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So, my main question, is there an access list command I can have
> > that basically says "allow all communication from the dmz to the
internet"
> > and one that says "allow communication from the inside to the dmz"?
> > I know I can add "access-list dmz permit ip host 192.168.1.1 any"
> > and that solves the problem of getting to the internet, but then it
> > opens all communication to the inside from this host and I don't
> > want to do that. Since this is version 6.3(3) I can't use an out
> > access-list which I think might solve the problem. I have enough
> > memory to run version 7.x on this PIX, but I'm trying to tackle one
> > problem at a time and I'm a little hesitant about doing the 7.x
upgrade just yet.
>
> The short answer to your question is that PIX access-lists are read,
> per-interface, top-to-bottom:
>
> access-list dmz_in deny ip 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 10.0.0.0
> 255.0.0.0 access-list dmz_in permit ip 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 any
> access-group dmz_in in interface dmz
>
> If your internal network is 10.0.0.0/8 and your DMZ is 192.168.1.0/24,
> this will prevent traffic from the DMZ to the inside, but allow
> everything else.
>
> PaulM
>
Ok, I think I understand this a little better now. Say my private
network is 192.168.1.0/24 and my dmz is 192.168.2.0/24. I already have
the static (inside,dmz) 192.168.1.0 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0
which is required in 6.3(3). So, in order to make this work i.e the
inside network has access to everything on the dmz network and the dmz
network can access the internet and I only allow specific communication
from the dmz to the inside I need to do the following:
access-list dmz permit udp host 192.168.2.2 host 192.168.1.202 eq domain
access-list dmz permit tcp host 192.168.2.2 host 192.168.1.203 eq smtp
access-list dmz deny ip 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.0
255.255.255.0 access-list dmz permit ip 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0 any
I will also need to add the nonat statements as was suggested by
Brandon:
access-list nonat permit ip 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.2.0
255.255.255.0 access-list nonat permit ip 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0
192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 nat 0 (inside) access-list nonat nat 0 (dmz)
access-list nonat
My only concern here is the 3rd line in the dmz access-list and whether
it will deny communication from the inside network to the dmz (except
dns and smtp), but I will test that when I get home tonight.
Thank you for everyone's help.
Brian
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 11:23:14 -0500 (EST)
From: jseymour@linxnet.com (Jim Seymour)
Subject: Re: [fw-wiz] Anyone have any informed opinions on the
Watchguard product line?
To: firewall-wizards@listserv.icsalabs.com
Message-ID: <20071226162314.E4BC9E158@jimsun.linxnet.com>
"Richard Golodner" <rgolodner@infratection.com> wrote:
>
[snip]
> There was also a nice GUI interface ...
[snip]
Is that still limited to running on a Windows PC?
I believe their management GUI once ran on both Windows and Linux.
Then, later, on Windows only, I was told. I tend to shun network
infrastructure products that require Windows to configure and administer
them.
Jim
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